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Can NBA players play in the NFL? $40k Equinox Membership?! When should you stop going to the Gym? | The Group Chat
In this episode of The Group Chat, NFL Veterans Brennan Scarlett and DJ Reader delve into the intriguing world of sports crossover as we explore whether NBA stars have what it takes to make it in the NFL. We'll also take a closer look at the luxurious realm of fitness with a spotlight on the $40,000 Equinox membership. Is it worth the hefty price tag? What exclusive perks and amenities does it offer? Finally, we tackle a question that sparks a debate: when do you stop going to the gym?
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And we are back with another episode of the group chat. Yeah, that rhyme, and we're here just in time. It's my co-host, Deej, and my name is Beej Deej. What's happening? What's up man? What's up man? There's an argument that's been going on around Twitter and around the Internet about NBA, National Basketball Association, NBA players' athleticism compared to the NFL, the National Football League, their players athleticism, and the debate is essentially which league has the more amount of players that can play in the others league. Austin Rivers came out and he said that the NBA currently has 30 players that could go and play in the NFL right now and he said you cannot take 30 NFL players and drop them in the NBA. And it started an uproar. There's been back and forth between Austin and old buddy from the Packers. What's his name? Aj, no, not AJ, Not Hawk, it's James Jones.
Speaker 1:I think, oh, back and forth with Austin Rivers and James Jones. And Austin Rivers was saying because James Jones said that, he said you can't make it in the NFL, you could barely even make it in the NBA. And then Austin came back. He said Austin said, bro, I'm a lottery pick playing. I'm already in my 11th season. I don't even know your name. You only played eight or nine seasons, so you barely made it in there, which I thought was a pretty funny comeback. But yeah, interesting, what's your take?
Speaker 2:I mean, Austin is just misguided. I think I commented on that post when I said he's smoking drugs. When I saw the post. When it said it I said he gotta be smoking drugs. But just because it's crazy to say is damn near disrespectful.
Speaker 1:You think that's untrue. There's not NBA players who can go and play in the NBA.
Speaker 2:I don't think that there's not NBA players, but 30 is just a crazy number to throw out there. We're talking like a number that's more so, like five, like, if we're being honest with people, everything that has to line up right, like there's a number that's like five. Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying. Like, and vice versa. I think there's like five that could go play and like, what are you asking these people to do? Are you saying that they can get out there and be functional? Are you thinking that they're going to go out there and be good players? Like that's what? Again, there's the spectrum so wide. There's more than five names. You got there, oh sorry, but there's more than five people who could go out there and play defense. You know what I'm saying. Like, like all these special athletes we got in this league, in this national football league I just think about the numbers the numbers are at our side.
Speaker 2:There's 60 of us to a team. You can find a special athlete on each team that can go and play defense, literally defense, do what Pat Bev does and I ain't no disrespect to Pat Bev. He gets buckets, he's the man when he has to, but he has to play defense most of the time. There's a lot of people who can play defense. Figure out who plays play defense. I'm not saying there's a lot of people who can score, but there's still some of those guys. I mean you got like guys like T Higgins. I mean there's countless guys who were rated in high school in basketball and football and chose either football or basketball. So it's not like it's saying the impossible, it's saying 30 guys is crazy to me Crazy 30 is a large number Functionable.
Speaker 1:I like that.
Speaker 2:I like that word, man. Thanks, man. Functionable, functionable, oh. But also let me get this off my chest I think we're more athletic as a people than they are. Like it's not in my mind as a people yeah like as like a group of athletes.
Speaker 2:We're way more athletic than them, but they'll tell you whatever they want to tell you. But I mean shit. Just look at our combine, like just look at it. Look at the drills and the athleticism that. Just look at our combine, like just look at it. Look at the drills and the athleticism that's displayed literally at our combine.
Speaker 2:Over and over the flipping of the hips, the swift, like so many things, the explosiveness running a 40, even down to the vertical. They do three steps. They run three steps and then jump and they're jumping 40s and 38s and 36s, like we got guys jumping straight up off the ground jumping 41s, 40s, year to year to year to year to year to year. This happens all the time. Yeah, so every measurement that you would use to measure someone's athleticism, we blow it out of the water on the test as a group of players.
Speaker 1:It's not even close. Somebody told me this some time ago when you get to be a sophomore or a junior in high school basically your first year of high school football at that point basketball players become football players and football players become basketball players. Essentially, it's like either the football players who are hooping and think they maybe got a shot, you know, we, either we stop growing or we just realize that, yeah, our bodies are more fit for for football. So basketball, you know it, goes by the wayside. On the other side, for basketball players who like, feel like they got a shot, they kind of like football. You know they play as soon as they get. They have some act across the middle.
Speaker 1:It's okay, I'm done with this sport of football. I'm going to focus on basketball and I will say and so I think I'll just kind of leave that there that there's more that goes into playing this game of football than just having the measurables. You got to really be built for this shit. You know it's like NBA playing basketball. That's an easy thing to love, right? You know you're out there, you're putting the ball in the basket. You know there's a little bit of contact, but like it's much different than what you experience and what you have to go through as being a football player.
Speaker 1:You really have to have a certain type of mindset and be wired a certain type of way and say I'm willing to take this beating and give out this beating on a daily basis. You say that you've got 30 guys in the NBA who live the cushy lifestyle and play the cushy game of putting that ball in the hole. To say that you got 30 of them, who's willing to drop that and come over and play in the nfl where it's really, really gets dirty in them trenches. And you gotta, you gotta take that beating day in and day out in the, in the, in the texas sun, at practice with pads and a helmet on hey, those gyms got air conditioning. And you outside in Houston, miami, and it's 96 degrees, with a heated neck, so 113, and you got your helmets full pads on. Every time you step your cleats is bubbling with sweat. You tell me there's 30 guys that can go do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you'd be hard-pressed, I told my boy. I said, bro, what position are they going to play? He's like, what about like? He was like I was like tight end's really the only position they can excel in. I said he said, well, what about like receiver or safety, db? I said DB or safety. Think about how bad the Eurostep messed up the NBA. The Eurostep created an entire problem in the NBA. I said that's a normal release for a wide receiver.
Speaker 2:These dudes out there running 4.3s, 4.4s on the regular, like every day. This is what they wake up and do. They wake up and run this fast every single day. I said I don't know that. I know many NBA players that can even run that fast. No, not to them. It's a different type of sport.
Speaker 2:And also, like you just did, the point you just made proves perfect. When you get to that age and guys realize, oh, I might, I might not be growing anymore, I need to go play football. You have been completely dominant in your basketball career up until that point. Dominant, most of those guys have been balling like we're not saying like no, dominant. Most of those guys who just make that decision have been dominant in their basketball career up until that point. So it's like a lot of times the things that stop them is literally growth hype. It's not like anything else is stopping them.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? I just watched a kid at the NBA combine who did not combine, who did not. He went and played a cop regular. Uh, went and did a regular nine to five after high school. Because he got like, went from like five, six to six, four in his last year, went to regular 95, end up running not six, nine, then going to juco. I mean then, yeah, going to going to juco. After that, like you don't hear many stories of Randy just stopped playing football in fucking 10th grade and then worked a 95. And then all of a sudden went and played good, like when it went and played at a Juco and got a scholarship to such and such. And now you're back. Kurt Warner might be the only person yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Like you don't see, francis, no, college ball straight up, straight out of there. Hey, back into you. Know what I'm saying? Like you don't? They're trying to say it's so tough, and I get that, it is. It's amazing, it's crazy. Don't take nothing away from those people that have done it, but there's a lacrosse guy that's on a two-way contract. Didn't play no college basketball, played college lacrosse. He's on a two-way deal on growing state. It's not impossible out here. So, like, don't give me that. Y'all Like don't do that also. Yeah, don't do that also. Charlie Ward won the Heisman in football. Played 12 years with the Knicks. Like this guy's doing it. Charlie Ward won the Heisman in football. Didn't get drafted, played 12 years with the Knicks. Mm, mm, so don 12 years with the Knicks, mm, mm.
Speaker 1:So don't like, I'm a fact on the. That's what I'm saying. I'm a fact.
Speaker 2:It's crazy Like people just get loose with their tongue, pause and just say crazy stuff. Man, it's just wild.
Speaker 1:I mean I think where Austin was coming from just putting myself in this because obviously I'm biased, you know we're biased, we play NFL football. But thinking about where he's coming from is that NBA players. They have the two things that allow them to be an NBA player is their athleticism and their skill with putting the ball in the basket. You look at football, so let me just go back. So on the NBA side. You can't exist in the NBA without the skill. If you're just athletic out there, you know there's no way you're not even going to get close. You look at the NFL and there are some. It takes, it takes skill, but it doesn't take as much skill as being an NBA player.
Speaker 1:Basketball is a more skillful sport across the board. You look at certain positions, like being a quarterback or every position has skill in their stuff, but there's a sliding scale and so as NFL players, if you have the athleticism then you likely have. You have half a chance to be a an NFL player. So there's some teams that are drafting just off of potential and just off the the measurables how high you can have, how fast you can run.
Speaker 1:So I think Austin is saying is like we already have the athleticism which is, you know, in his eyes and you know it's maybe 50 to 75 percent of what it takes. You guys have the athleticism but have none of the skill that we over here in the NBA have, which actually it's flip like the skill is more important on the NBA side than the athleticism. So it's like I think it's the skill Like you can take an Anthony Edwards and you can drop him in to to a football game and run a route and he'll probably catch a couple of balls. Can you take a Miles Garrett or CJ Stroud and put them into the NBA and will they drop buckets?
Speaker 2:How many buckets are we saying, like you said, it's relative. You're telling me I don't give a. Let me put it this way I don't care how skilled they are. If Miles Garrett's got 35 minutes, he's going to put some of those fuckers in the cup. They got no shot. They got no fucking shot.
Speaker 2:And that's me. However big Miles Garrett is, I watched him jump that 40. He's going to put some of those fuckers in the cup and they can try as much as they want to, I don't care. He might dribble the ball, he might power dribble with two hands down there, and if they jump their ass up there, it's going to look like Zion just rose on their ass. That's what's going to happen. They think that shit's not going to happen. If they want to, that's going to happen. For sure. They're going to be pissed.
Speaker 2:That's real and that's the thing I think, when that's real, and that's the thing like it's like. Like I think, like when we talk about the r's might be the problem that guys are overly athletic, like like, again, a guy like miles garrett uh, the kid from what's his name. Anthony richardson, for the quarterback from uh, and indie like jaylor ramsay, those guys just like, yeah, you can think that you're just going to stop them from doing something. You're not. You can say, oh, I would do this. Yeah, they're not going to be LeBron KD.
Speaker 2:Those guys, some of y'all, are role players. You're going to have a problem on your fucking hands trying to guard them or even do anything, or stopping them from guarding you. I promise you it's going to have a problem on your fucking hands trying to guard them or even do anything, or stopping them from guarding you. I promise you it's going to happen. Man, it's the same way. Okay, we would be skilled compared to them as like a G league D, d, d, two, whatever, d three player. That's the same thing for us as athleticism.
Speaker 2:The athleticism wise like you out there running around like a baby, damn deer, not going to impress nobody. Nobody's worried about y'all running past them. Nope, not a single corner is worried about you running past him. You know what I'm saying? No, none of them are like, oh, I'm shaking in my boots Like they don't get hands on you. They hold plans. Like I'm shaking in my boots, they're going to get hands on you. They're going to be like I'm about to rough it up, it's over for them. So, yeah, tight end, getting a fade ball, okay, you can get that, but maybe, maybe. And then you have to put yourself in a perfect position to catch that fade. Those are the things, because the skill of a release, those type of things like that I get you attack the ball and triple threat, but like that dude can't hand check you. So when this corner, jam your ass, like what are you going to do? Like, what's your plan?
Speaker 1:Cause most of these corners. I mean they've seen it all.
Speaker 2:They've seen all that athleticism, the height, the speed, you know the guard, fucking Justin, jefferson, tita and Jamar, and those guys like Jamar knows God, like I'm a rod, they got to guard him, like in real life, like what? Come on, bro, you're not about to do it. What are you about to do? You better do something. It better be good too. You better do something, and it better be good. It better be good. It's got to be something to throw me off my game. You ain't got this little ball in your hands no more, and again like you said I can touch you.
Speaker 2:First of all, your center of gravity is so high that I'm going to be able to see your hips the whole time if I play corner or something like that. And I don't think any of them can play defense to go backwards Like, play safety, play corner. Like those type of positions Like come on, bro, they not about to backpedal that. Good, yeah, they backpedal it. They best bet is like maybe plucking the ball out of the middle of the field.
Speaker 1:You feel like you step on that NBA basketball court in the golf game, you putting some of those fuckers in the cup or what.
Speaker 2:No, no, I got two bum knees, bro. I'm not doing anything, maybe like young bees. I got a chance to get some buckets, but I'm also not self-proclaimed to be as athletic as Miles Garrett and those guys. I don't jump for 40. I don't you know, I'm not a 4'4 guy. I didn't go to the combine running 4'4, jumping 40 in a 12 inch, 12 foot broad jump. But we have multiple of those guys, so will those guys do it? Yes, yes, I think if I got 35 minutes I can hit some shots. I don't think you know what I'm saying. I can get open. If I get a chance, I can hit a shot, hit a couple shots. I'm strong, I feel strong in my jump shot, but I also shit.
Speaker 2:I watch those fuckers go out there every night and not do great. Do you know what I'm saying? It's cool. Even the trash can't get a steak. Every now and then at Austin Rivers I might go out there just to have a date I can't miss. It is what it is. Deeds from the logo. Can't miss. It just might happen that way. Like you know, you can't. You know what I'm saying. You can't say shit like that. It's just a different like there's people on their team that I ain't seen get in the game yet, like there's guys I watched play the whole season. Just chill over there on that bench, bro, just vibing Towel. Swinging over there on that bench bro, just vibing Tile swinging, hanging out, hand shaking.
Speaker 2:Hanging out Over there hand shaking. Got all the hand shakes down. Got all the hand shakes down.
Speaker 1:Got all the sideline antics.
Speaker 2:Got the handeline antics. Hey you, hey Big threes that throw it up the three. The sideline antics are killing me man, oh bro.
Speaker 1:I would love to be that guy though the sideline antics guy.
Speaker 2:I think of him as the guy. If I was a backup that guy though the sideline answer guy. If I was a backup quarterback, I'd have the sideline answers.
Speaker 1:I look at that and I just think that's the practice squad here. That's the practice squad. That's like I mean, who would I see who's DeAndre Jordan playing with right now?
Speaker 2:I think he's with Dallas, he's with the Nuggets, ain't he?
Speaker 1:Is it the Nuggets he's with? I think he's with the Nuggets bro. Yeah, I just saw him on the sideline. I ain't seen DeAndre Jordan playing a game for a long time, but I saw him on the sideline.
Speaker 2:He ain't seen himself playing a game.
Speaker 1:It's been a minute Since the Blake Griffin DeAndre Jordan days. You know I ain't seen him out there, but seeing him on the sideline and I you know you notice those guys that you used to see always on the floor Like man DeAndre Jordan, over there he was pumping up his tears and somebody made a play and I just thought to myself. I was like if I wanted my superstar big man center to go against somebody in practice every day, it would probably be DeAndre Jordan. Like I would want that to be him. You know what I mean, just based on what he brings to the game. And so maybe it was Joker. Like if he plays for the team, then it's Joker, like that's his matchup. That probably makes Joker a lot better.
Speaker 2:Oh, bro, especially I mean, when you talk about an overly athletic guy. Prime example, what was DeAndre Jordan's skill?
Speaker 1:He was athletic as hell. He was big and athletic and a cool guy, he the man, he, cool as hell.
Speaker 2:Hey, you throw that out to you. He's as hell. Hey, you throw that out of you, he's still great. Exactly that is what I'm telling you. There's just some people on this earth that you just could do that. But also, he did catch a body, I think earlier this year, and I think it was like a bottom of the stake body. He even looked at the guy with it when he dunked on him. Oh yeah, it like a bottom of the stake body. He even looked at the guy with it when he dunked on him. Oh yeah, it was an old man body, like. He went up there, caught the alley-oop I don't know who young bull that was under there. They just looked at him like, ah, you're going to be on top 10, my brother, yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 1:He was an enforcer at the rim too.
Speaker 2:That's the thing, like, yeah, bro, when you, if you that tall and you can jump, just be athletic, just do that, I don't need you to do nothing else. You can learn how to dribble somewhere on somebody else's time, kick rocks, we don't care, just throw the ball up to them. Screen the world, throw it up.
Speaker 1:Block that shot at the rim Correct and make sure you know all the handshakes.
Speaker 2:That's it, bro. Be a good teammate, bro, Just be a good teammate man.
Speaker 1:Lock the room, guy Hanging out, give Joker all he can handle at practice, hey hopefully they put him in the street, throw it up still.
Speaker 2:I still got it, bitch.
Speaker 1:The practice goes crazy. Give him something good, pop that on in the film room.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the stories that the young kids go home and say, bro, you wouldn't believe. Bro, Bro DeAndre Jordan still got it. Bro, he still like that. Bro, I swear to God, I threw him an alley today. In practice he was like at the top. Still got it, bro, he still like that. Bro, I swear to God, I threw him an alley today. In practice he was like at the top of the backboard. He was at the top of the backboard, Backboard. I thought I was Chris Paul DeAndre Jordan. Hey, ask him to do that night out. You know how many hot packs he's going to need to do that night in and night out now.
Speaker 1:He ain't going to do that.
Speaker 2:A permanent hot pack.
Speaker 1:He's going to need one, that's a fact how old is DeAndre Jordan? 35. He said 35 years old, born in Houston, texas, h-town guy For sure Legend. Oh, I think the biggest thing we were discussing In our pre-show Is Equinox Dropping the $40,000 membership. Oh yeah, crazy, yeah, so $40,000 a year you get the membership. Oh yeah, it's crazy, yeah, so $40,000 a year you get obviously access to the Equinox facilities, but it also 24 hours.
Speaker 2:Or am I cut off? Do I have like a time that I got to make it through?
Speaker 1:No, I imagine operating hours. I imagine it's like a 6 am to 10 pm. Type of situation 6 to 10 to 30. Keep going. So you get access, you get lab tests for more than 100 biomarkers up to four times a year. You get personal training with Equinox's coaches three times a week. You get monthly massage therapy and it also comes with a nutritionist and like nutritional consulting.
Speaker 2:I don't know, bro, I don't know that normal people need all this. Maybe they do, maybe they do. But I feel like if you have this 40 000, you have insurance, you go to the doctor and they run these regular tests anyway essentially, but I do like that they. You can do the blood test for four up to 100 biomark by all that stuff um yeah, because you got to think that probably probably that's also capturing like hormones. Yes, correct, so I do like that. You get that up to four times a year.
Speaker 1:You got to keep those T levels high now, which I think I don't know, 50, 60, 70. Hey, that T levels, that's a measurable. You talking about the combines, that's what you're measuring that's a measurable. You talking about the combines, that's what you're measuring.
Speaker 2:That's what you're measuring right there, for sure.
Speaker 1:You want the T-levels to be high enough, and why did you do two?
Speaker 2:Oh man and then. So like I just feel like I need more, like I need like a meal plan too in this 40,000. Like I need, come on, too, in this $40,000. Come on, I feel like we should have meal rooms at our Equinox, that if I got this exclusive membership, I can go in after my workout. Hit the chef, be like yo, this and the third the show knows the same thing.
Speaker 1:It includes the nutritionist, the. We need the chef there. We need like a buffet style situation, did he? And yes, and, like you, know how to turn the tables on. We need an omelet bar.
Speaker 2:We need those things. Those things need to be in there. If that's the like, if it's 40 grand Three times a week, I should be able to get lunch too a week I should be able to get lunch too, or something, a meal, with my workout. You know what I'm saying? It should come with something like that hold on, now you're telling me I get the nutrition. Now I gotta pay some more money to go buy my own meals.
Speaker 2:That's crazy, we're talking $40,000 now if we're gonna have multiple people buying this, we're talking $40,000 now. Yeah, if we're going to have multiple people buying this, I need a hot table. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:I need like a little Whole Foods hot station.
Speaker 2:It's only for the members who have the $40,000, or if you pay for the day pass or this.
Speaker 1:Don't steal our idea, equinox I promise, every time I go in to a personal trainer and I get my coaching, I need the omelet bar, the omelet station, after that In a VIP only room where only the $40,000 members can be and have access to this omelet bar. And then, if I choose, to do my work and stay the rest of the day and I'm also gonna get my blood work and then I want lunch. I want a buffet style lunch with my nutritionist right next to me consulting on my portion sizes correct. And then I want my massage at the end of the day. I want that three times a week.
Speaker 2:Maybe I'll consider $40,000. Basically, it should be the Delta Lounge at the airport where I could be there all day or three hours. Like you said, there are always going to be meals rotating in our private little area for our 40,000. I think that that should be it. If that's the case, like there should be a room where I have those meals and they're served three times a day, and it doesn't have to like you know what I'm saying, don't have to be crazy, like, but like there should be somewhere where you can go down.
Speaker 2:All right, I just got done my workout like they do at the gym. You can get shakes and stuff like that, but you gotta freaking pay for them. That should be included in my damn 40 000. Like, all right, we got shakes this is a third year got some water, some lemon, perfect those type of things here, and like I got like a little meal that I could. That's already there in the room. You know what I'm saying. And they're cranking that shit out like, yeah, I think that should be, that should be feasible for 40 grand. Are they gonna do that?
Speaker 1:no, that should be feasible and if they're, if for some reason there was ever french fries, sweet potato fries on the menu in this buffet bar, then I should not only have ketchup, I should also have some white sauce. That's non-negotiable. If I'm paying $40,000, I should have ketchup and I should have some form of white sauce, preferably ranch, but also take aioli. I think either one. And if it's Deej, if it's you and you're a client and you pay $40,000, you should have your ketchup seasoned and doctored up for you by your nutritionist at the optimal levels of both salt and pepper. And if you want those fries shaken up in a paper bag like nine-year-old DJ, that nutritionist should shake them bitches up for you and wipe your fingers when you're done and that will make $40,000 worth.
Speaker 2:There you go. That's just $40,000,. Bro, 40k, it's a ticket.
Speaker 1:It's a ticket. It's a ticket. For sure it's got to come with more. We need more. That's a car.
Speaker 2:We need more for $40K, and it's not like you said, it's not a one-time thing. This is $40,000 a year. We need more. That's all I'm saying is we need more.
Speaker 1:The craziest part, deej, how much is a regular membership at Equinox. That's a great question. What's?
Speaker 2:our price on a regular membership what?
Speaker 1:is the baseline $300.
Speaker 2:$300, what Dollars? For a monthly membership, a monthly membership.
Speaker 1:It's $300 a month, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:Quick math $3,600 for an Equinox membership, to get that 3600 on the year and you get access to the gym floor, steam room, sauna, all that other stuff that those 40 000 people get access anyway.
Speaker 1:So 3600, boom, you're getting one massage a month. They're probably taxing 200 on the massage. So, boom, 2400 on top of your 3600. Six grand, boom. So you're six grand in a year. You already got your massages and you got access to the gym. You get a coach. You get a coach. They're probably charging you 1500 a year or 1500, uh, for three sessions. So if you get three sessions a month, three sessions a month now, if he gets a week, now the math's getting. It's getting a little tricky.
Speaker 2:Now I'm probably charging like 150 a session.
Speaker 1:I was thinking like thank you. Now they charge like 500, bro A session. Once you get up there, you get luxury, bro. 500 a session, bro Sure.
Speaker 2:I'm about to go work at fucking Equinox when I'm done.
Speaker 1:As long as you got a six-pack and a chiseled jaw and a good smile, you got a shot.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm already. I got the good smile and jaw, but six-packs, two boxes check, brother.
Speaker 1:You'll get the six pack when you're done playing.
Speaker 2:Maybe I mean, I can't guarantee it though so like it's not like a if it's one of those things where I got to stress, like you know what I'm saying, I got to get outlying right now, but if I got to stress too hard, I'm telling you I'm not doing it. I will get to the end and quit, be like well, I gave it my best shot, guys. I really tried.
Speaker 1:DJ, I can't see you stressing when you're done playing.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. So if I can't get to that six-pack without it just coming in, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:I got you.
Speaker 2:If we're getting down LBs and I'm splitting hairs, I'm like, oh, I got to cut this out to really get it. I'm going to be like, ah yeah, be like, let me go sign up for this $40,000 Equinox membership.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Make sure all my vitals are good. Get this coat, so I can blame it on him. Equinox, hit us up, hit us up. We can add to y'all's creativity and some plans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can figure some shit out.
Speaker 2:We can figure some shit. Yeah, we can figure some shit out, move some things around.
Speaker 1:We'll even consider doing a live in-person group chat episode for your $40,000 members. Yeah, we'll do it, we'll talk them through it. A small $15,000 appearance fee.
Speaker 2:I'll wait until they end the access. Then I want to go really a little bit off topic. When is enough enough in the gym? Really a little bit off topic. When is enough enough in the gym? I know you're working out for lifestyle and health, but body-wise, like you said, people are split hairs. When is it not going to change much, or do you think you can always improve upon it?
Speaker 1:I think you can always improve. My mind immediately goes to the bodybuilders and uh, uh, the arnold schwarzenegger types, or like. Who's that big black dude, the big uh bodybuilder dude? Ronnie colby, the bald one. He's like a little bit more light-skinned. He's always on tv.
Speaker 2:TV, ct Fletcher.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, fletcher, like I'm thinking of those guys and it's like damn. I don't know how much more you can really do, but up until you get there, I feel like there's always room.
Speaker 2:Okay, I just had to ask that. I always wondered. I have never.
Speaker 1:Because, like you said, there's a bunch of people I see in the Equinox flitting hairs where I'm like then I feel, like you get to a point where, like you're fit, you're not worried about your fitness or your weight, or like your muscles you like look good, you feel good, you're strong. So then it becomes less about aesthetics and more just like how do I feel when I'm training.
Speaker 1:That maybe helps, like clear my mind, makes my mood higher, gives me energy yeah yeah, feel healthy, like longevity, you know, resistance, training, aid in longevity and all these these things. I feel like it's more about that versus aesthetics, but like that's just, I don't know. That's my perspective. I feel like that's not everyone's perspective, though.
Speaker 2:No, bro, it was just a fair question, the question I proposed. We were kind of ending our show in segments and I was just, you know, figured I'd ask a question I didn't really have an answer for and I really just kind of always wondered, because I see people in the gym all the time and I'm like, look bro, if I got to your stage I'm not paying for the membership, no more, this is gonna be at home like push-ups, sit-ups, and like I'm just precious, like I'll be good. I'll be good because I see some jack people at the at the gym, like I see some, and whether it's through natural or through roids, however they got there, they look good.
Speaker 1:It's impressive. What I think is interesting is how it's different between men and women. My girlfriend she always says she doesn't want to get a CrossFit body. She works out a lot, she does a lot of Orange Theory and she runs and Pilates and she's a super fit. She like has pretty broad shoulders and like she's like she doesn't want to pack on too many, too many traps or like look like too muscular, you know, which is like if she spends more time in the gym and like splits hairs around type of figure, then it probably does reach a point where it's too much for her aesthetically.
Speaker 1:But for me, regardless of what type of fitness I'm doing or how I'm training, I don't care how my body evolves, as long as it's just more fit. You know what I mean. I don't really care evolves, as long as it's just like more fit, you know I mean I don't really care. Like any muscular, like figure I get to, I don't. I really don't care if it's crossfit, if it's yogi, if it's bodybuilding, it's like. Whatever I'll tell, I'll take it, I'll take all of them I'm just trying to be trending in in the right direction.
Speaker 2:Whatever that direction is, I just want to be like you said get more fit, bro. All those options work for me, so like yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 2:That is strange, and I always hear girls complaining about that, like, oh, I don't want to get to this, that and the third. And I'm like you think you will, or you think like you'll get there without noticing it. That's the thing I always wonder. I'm like do you think you'll get there before you notice that you're getting there and can't stop that from happening? You know what I'm saying. I understand you don't want to do it because of the fear of what will happen, but do you not think that you could do it and then be like all right, yeah. Or do you think that you just noticed too late? Yeah, because I look in the mirror every day and I promise you, when I see the slightest bit of change, I am so encouraged I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I know you have those days when you wake up and you're like is this a six?
Speaker 1:is this a two? How?
Speaker 2:you feeling, you feeling okay. And then, you have those days when you wake up and you cut that mirror on and you turn that light right back off, right back on. I could have dealt without that. Look, that shit was bullshit.
Speaker 1:Let's try again tomorrow.
Speaker 2:What's wrong with you mirror? I had this slip wrong.
Speaker 1:A dead water weight. Drank too much water.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I can always see it in my sides, bro, like I carry all my weight in my torso, and every time like I'm, either when I'm gaining or I'm losing, I can see it all in my sides, like my hips, all the way back to, like kind of, my lats. This past year when I was gaining, I was gaining weight. I was like got to a point I peaked out around 278. It's 278, bro, which is super heavy, big fella, hey, big fella. I usually would play at 262. That's my playing weight and I would try to come into training camp lower than that, like 55, 57 maybe. So when I got to 78, that was the first time I ever noticed like a little bit of. It wasn't a roll, but it was a little wrinkle right underneath my lat on my side and like when I bent over. Enough, that motherfucker folded, that motherfucker said. I said, oh yeah, I gotta change something damn man.
Speaker 2:Hey, he was a naturally bigger guy. My whole life you were on the way. You were on your way to the club. That was gonna hurt you. That, when you lean to the side, you got too many of them over there. It should hurt you. Yeah, when you lean to the side, you got too many of them over there. Hershey, hershey, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, yeah, I'm back on my shit. I'm like 58 now Came down.
Speaker 2:So I don't have anymore.
Speaker 1:But I'm you know, I keep an eye on it, make sure he's he ain't coming back 78 is crazy.
Speaker 2:See, I've been been I think I'm like 42 right now and, on the quest to get to like 28, been losing like two pounds a week. I ain't been stressing I been going too hard. Let me tell you I'm not, I'm not going. Yeah, I'm going to get there. Oh, I just wasn't going super hard to get there. It I got time. You know how it is when you got the time, it's just and, like you said, I'm rehabbing. So I'm literally working out every single day, every day. You just got to stop the drinking on weekends, bro. A lot of quad sets, a lot of quad sets, bro. A lot of things to do with the quad in general. Just getting a lot of things to do with the quad in general.
Speaker 1:This is getting that, getting that sucker moving man, getting it moving you never know how many exercises there is for a muscle group until you goddamn get a rehab sheet for that particular muscle this?
Speaker 2:does rehab come in your 40 grand? Do you get this physical therapy in there? Is physical therapy also included in there? Are they taking a stab in the fucking dart if I get hurt?
Speaker 1:Do they give you a double-sided rehab card for your quad?
Speaker 2:I just want to know if those people know how to properly rehab me, because I've already paid when I got hurt in my ski resort. I've already paid this 40 fucking grand for this gym membership. Y'all need to know how to do physical therapy as well when I pull up. There is what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Is this a customized plan in my situation, or is this the same shit you gave your last guy?
Speaker 2:that's, that's it. That's what I want to know. Is this, like you said, is this customized for me, or does daryl have the same shit, because me and daryl got two different things going on.
Speaker 1:Well, deech it's good to see you, man, good to see you too bro, everyone listening. Appreciate y'all tuning in uh, there's, there's more to come, there's more to come. More uh talks about sports and more talk about culture. Until next time we are exiting the group chat peace.