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DJ Reader is a Lion, Bronny to the NBA?, Hip Drop Tackle, Kendrick vs. J. Cole Beef | THE GROUP CHAT

Scarlett Creative Season 1 Episode 1

After a small hiatus, NFL Players Brennan Scarlett and DJ Reader are back with the newly rebranded show, The Group Chat! Today the guys discuss DJ's new contract with the Lions and the process of transitioning to a different team, their thoughts on Bronny entering both the NBA Draft and the Transfer Portal, the NFL's ban of the hip-drop tackle, and the beef between Kendrick Lamar and J Cole. Tune in each week for more - and let us know what you want to hear the guys talk about next! 

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Speaker 1:

And we're back now with an episode of Deej and Beej. As you may have suspected, we are back with the first episode of the group chat with your hosts, beej and Deej. Deej, what's up, man, what's?

Speaker 3:

up man? What's up man? It's been a minute. We've both been busy. It's good to get back out here and get back on this phone and talk to each other bro.

Speaker 1:

Get back on this phone, back on the horn, man. I missed our talks and our time. We've chatted off of our show a little bit, but this is the first of bringing people into our group chat, so to speak, Our first in a while.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, man, this is the first in a while. I'm glad they're getting ready to join the group chat. The group chat's lit, so I'm excited about the adventures that the group chat's about to take the adventures of the group chat about to take the adventures of the group chat.

Speaker 1:

That might be a tagline.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the adventures of the group chat man. We're about to go all over About to talk about some things, unpack some things, invite some people into our lives. Go see about some other people's lives, See what's going on.

Speaker 1:

That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. It's, uh, it's a community space and we're unpacking all sorts of sports culture, drama, uh, whatever, whatever you know we feel like talking about and whatever the producer puts on our production sheet. But the group chat is a place for us to talk some shit, have a few laughs, maybe have a couple of drinks. Just some water for me today. You got some sparkling water? Oh, you got some sparkling water. Okay, the Topo Ch. Some sparkling water. Okay, the Topo Chico over there. You know it.

Speaker 3:

Hey, the best, the best.

Speaker 1:

Man, you got that Topo Chico type money.

Speaker 3:

Don't do that.

Speaker 1:

I knew that was Topo.

Speaker 2:

We can't afford Topo out here.

Speaker 1:

There was no Pellegrino. Pellegrino ain't crossed my mind. There was no Polar Polar ain't crossed my mind. None of that Trader Joe's brand. I knew Topo, the most carbonated of the bubbly sparkling water, is what you would be drinking, my friend.

Speaker 3:

Bro, you need it. It's just crisp. I need that burn, I need that burn. It just hits different. It hits different. The Topo hit different that glass bottle. It get extra cold Crisp opening man. I needed it today. The topo hit different. That glass bottle would get extra cold, crisp opening man.

Speaker 1:

I needed it today feel like sparkling water is better out of a glass or out of a can gotta be better out of a glass.

Speaker 3:

I don't. I mean I don't know, cans do get cold, though cans do get cold you just got the sound. I don't know that I've ever had one. I don't like the water glues. I'm not a big fan of the water glues. Like they're okay, they don't hit. Maybe if Topo made a can, does Topo make a can?

Speaker 1:

Is there something I'm missing? I think they make canned seltzers. I've never seen a canned sparkling water, though you know they got the seltzer. Yeah, it's not the same. I feel like the glass. I I'm with you. I feel like the glass is a better quality and the fact that you have to pop it off with a, with a bottle opener, just like cements, that you are drinking a quality sparkling water and it's bougie that you got to go and take the extra step to pop it off, feel the extra security like nothing happened, like this is hey, this is packaged just for me to drink it, just for me.

Speaker 3:

It was way. Yeah, it was personal I mean it was packaged.

Speaker 1:

It actually was packaged just for you, deej. You know that's an expensive, expensive water. You know got an expensive taste for the water and you're coming off a fresh contract, freshly inked, with the Detroit Lions man and so that topo is actually made for you, man, congratulations on Detroit.

Speaker 3:

Appreciate it, man. We in the D with you, man. Congratulations on each point. Appreciate it, man, we in the D with it, man. One pride we here. Let's go, let's go. I'm excited, man. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. I really appreciate that. I know you were away doing expensive trips and meditating in the Himalayas with the monks and stuff and vibing, but I'm glad you had enough time to see on the internet that your boy got a new deal. You know, with the new squad I'm very excited, I'm super excited about getting out there, man. And you know I've been watching BMF and stuff to get up on my Detroit lingo. You know that might have been in the 80s, 90s, but you know we to get up on my Detroit lingo.

Speaker 1:

That might have been in the 80s, 90s.

Speaker 3:

But you know, be all right, we'll make it work. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, man, like I was saying, super excited about Detroit, man, and the only thing I know that they say lingo-wise that I got from the show is what up, though. But that's some old stuff, I know they rock the buffs, though I got to get a new, fresh pair of buffs to put on.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. Well, I'm curious Deeds. I know I was gallivanting through the content in the VASA during the free agency period and when you were ultimately picked up by the Lions. But we've talked on previous episodes about the free agency experience and what it's like and the ups and downs and it's like and you know the ups and downs and it's a really quick roller coaster. Can you give us some some context of what happened in this last free agency period and what led up to you ultimately landing in detroit with the lions and, and you know, leaving the, the banglesals man, out of the jungle? So what happened, man? Give us a breakdown of what?

Speaker 3:

happened. Man, you know it was crazy. I've touched on this on like other places, but not really had a chance to touch on it on my own platform. It was just kind of crazy. You know you get hurt with what five games left and you think like, all right, this is a place I want to be, it's a culture you help kind of build and things like that. You're here, you're there, you really want those things to happen. You know they just don't. You hear from the coaches and stuff and your players.

Speaker 3:

Obviously I spent every single day there doing rehab up until free agency started. I mean, I think I talked, talked to you and I was just there rehabbing, grinding and then kind of it's kind of weird for nobody from upstairs to ever come down or say, hey, let's get this deal done, let's do this, let's do this like, let's just try and get it done before free agency, because we know you're going to end every last year. We want you, we're here. You know you're here every day. You're showing you're committed to us, we want to show a commitment to you and that just never happened. You know it never happened up until the days before free agency and then the day of it was kind of you end up getting like a subpar deal or just a subpar offer and something that you didn't feel was respectable to who you were as a player, and so then you kind of want to go see other options. It's just, it's nothing personal, but they've made it a business with you. You know what I'm saying. Like they didn't make it. They made it unpersonal with you. You felt like it was a family and that's hard you gotta understand. But they made it that way with you as well.

Speaker 3:

So obviously you got feelings. You're a person, um, so you to go see what's out there and if somebody truly wants you, and that's kind of what I fell into. You know, I fell into that category. So I ended up going to Detroit and it was nice to feel wanted like truly wanted by a team and everybody in the building you know not not just the coaches, gm, everybody you're talking to everybody owners, all that stuff. So it was awesome just to be there and everybody seemed excited and happy for you to be there and be a part of something special, because you can tell that something special is brewing over there and that's really what it all ended up happening.

Speaker 3:

No hard feelings, it was just business at the end of the day and that was something I had to take a step back and really notice.

Speaker 3:

But I mean, it was hard for me at the beginning because you know you sit there and you feel like you built the culture and you built something. I mean, shoot, you went to two AFC championships with that team and a Super Bowl where you felt like you really had a good chance of winning All these things. You felt like you built the right culture and they're about the right stuff, and for that not to really feel like, to not really be pushed towards, like you were a part of that or like that you made that happen, that really hurt me. I think that really, it really did hurt my heart in that in that way, because it felt like they were like, well, we could just do without you, which it is what it is. Now I'm on to bigger and better things. I'm excited to be in detroit, but you know that you never want to feel that way as a player, especially when you actually help build something.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. And then it's got to be difficult Every time, right when the business of of the game shows itself, where the Bengals organization shows itself, where the bangles organization um, they made a decision, you know, to not pursue you as as really as as hard as you would, you deserve. And then there's, you know, and then you have to make the business decision right of, like, okay, like, okay. Well, this deal is not the one that is respectable for me. Then I have to look elsewhere and ultimately weigh my options and it's the business. But at the end of the day, like you said, we're still human, right, you still have the emotions and what you built with Cincinnati. How are you able to overcome those emotions, you know, in those moments where it feels like, damn, I did all this work and now I feel like I'm being disrespected and my heart is getting hurt, like, how do you overcome that?

Speaker 3:

I really was struggling, to be honest, like I was struggling, bro, because you know you got the guys. You got the guys who really matter to you. That's what matters. The guys Do you know what I'm saying? Like the people you put blood, sweat and tears with. And that's always the interesting part when you're under contract.

Speaker 3:

When you're under contract, the business and the family never mix really much. It's only when those contract negotiations come up that you have your family over here, which is your guys and who people you actually grind with the coaches instead of the third. And then you have this whole other piece that you're negotiating with. That's, it almost seems like a third party. You know like it's not like they're down there with you every day, they're not grinding with you every day, they're not just like. So it's almost like, oh shit, like you like, do they know? Do they know what I mean? Do that like? You know, like this than the third.

Speaker 3:

But I think that's the hardest part. And then you have to realize that it's no hard feelings. The guys you're grinding with like I mean shit. You still my friend, I had to move on. You still my homeboy, everybody who I've been friends with and had a connection with we're still all friends and you got to let that part go. I think I had a mentor, one of my mentors, john Me and him always talk. He's an old head, so he uses old head analogies all the time. I always got to pick up on him.

Speaker 2:

We love that we love the OG man, og, bro.

Speaker 3:

He goes hey, man, you know, with these organizations. He said hey, man, you can love them. He said you can hug them. He said but you can't fridge kiss them. I'm like, what do you mean? I'm like, what does he mean? You can't French kiss him. You French kiss him. You're going to want to put a ring on him. He said well, if you French kissing them and telling them you love them, you want them to French kiss you back and tell them that they love you, put a ring on you. He said well, they're not putting a ring on you.

Speaker 3:

So there's only one person out there that seems to be in love. And when he broke it down that way, I laughed. I laughed at it because I was like it's just such an old head bar. But it was true, man, it's true, it is what it is. You can't tell a person I love you, I love you, I love you, and then never really fall in love with that person. Just how it goes, you know. So you can like somebody a lot, but you just got to like people in different ways and you can't be as locked down and as friendly as you want to be through all these situations because at the end of the day, it is business and if you show some signs of weakness, some people will take advantage of you and exploit that.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, right. That's a fact. That's a fact. Shout out to the OG John. Shout out to my dog.

Speaker 3:

John.

Speaker 1:

You can hug him, you can hug him, you can kiss him, but you can't French kiss him. That's the thing with these organizations.

Speaker 2:

You can't French kiss.

Speaker 3:

Hey, that's the only thing to say. When he said it, I was dying.

Speaker 1:

I was like dude, this dude is funny, bro.

Speaker 3:

I get these like once a week, that's good About once a week, something like that's head-calling once a week. I got to remember for the next shows because he's hilarious.

Speaker 1:

You need that man, you need that. I think the silver lining through all of the business that was difficult to go from a place where you had your boys, your family and then ultimately move on the silver lining is that, bro, you landed in a great spot, An organization that is on the rise. They're winning, they're trying to win. Now it seems that you fit the scheme great. They got great leadership, Coach Campbell and Detroit. Over the past few episodes you've said that Detroit is actually your favorite city. I don't know if the Lions fans out there want to go and do some diligence on some of our past episodes, but Deej loves Detroit and he said that before he was even a Lion.

Speaker 3:

So, man, it's serendipity, bro. I think everybody in America who wasn't in the playoffs fell in love with the Lions. You might be the only person that didn't fall in love with the Lions, but that's because you're from the West Coast. You like to go against the grain. Sometimes You're like nah man, nah nah, but now you got no choice because your boy's out there. So now we're even bringing you on the bandwagon, we're bringing everybody, everybody, everybody that.

Speaker 1:

I mean, that's a fact. You're out there. My guy, jared Goff, is there as well. Yeah, yeah, I'm a Lions fan. Now, what it's not the jungle in Detroit, what is it?

Speaker 3:

one pride, one pride, but it's at Fort Field, you know. I don't know if we got a nickname for it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if that's the thing, yeah well, we'll put a pause on I don't know if we got a nickname for it. I don't know if that's the thing, yeah Well, we'll put a pause on the Detroit talk. We'll save an episode for later to really dig in and introduce the people to DJ Reader, to Deej himself, but for now, you're not the only one that's left one place and went to another. Young Bronny James is leaving USC, enters his name in the NBA draft and enters his name in the transfer portal at the same damn time. Yeah, I honestly didn't even know that you could do that. I didn't know that you could do both that you could transfer and go to the NBA.

Speaker 3:

I thought you yeah, I didn't know you could do both. That was something that I didn't know because I knew you could go, like the NBA thing, check out, see what your grade might be and then come back.

Speaker 1:

But I guess, I never put it in and then pull it back. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I didn't know. You could like, do that, see what your grade, and then be back like, hey, I'm a free agent again. Who want me? You know what I'm saying? Who got the bag? I'm trying to pull up and I yell saying, hey, it's me. You see that I just went to the NBA. What the draft stocks say about what the draft.

Speaker 1:

People say about me put love man Right. Well, I mean I think he'll land wherever he wants in the transfer portal. But it's a little bit interesting for me with entering the name in the NBA draft. I mean I didn't watch a ton of college basketball this year but I mean he wasn't balling like nba draft type balling. So from what I understand, so is is he doing this because he understands that his that pops is pulling the strings in the league and will make a way to get him on the same team. You know what is the? I'm trying to figure out the end game here with Bronny and his name in the draft, maybe he's going to see exactly what he needs to work on.

Speaker 3:

I mean, obviously getting better. He didn't go crazy, but I do think Bronny has a lot of tools and I think that a kid like him, who's used to like putting the work in, you put him in one of those like camps he might shine. You know what I'm saying. Like a pre-draft camp, like he might go crazy. He really might like end up shining Because he's a kid that's used to working every day. Every day he's done it with his pops, he's programmed before he might go crazy. Then you know something like that exposed to him. Then he comes back and does whatever.

Speaker 3:

He might go to Duquesne man. I think his dad's friend just got a head job at Duquesne. It'd be a smart move for me. They just went on that run. It's a double-A tournament man, so I don't know Duquesne man.

Speaker 1:

Turn the program up Duquesne.

Speaker 3:

Why do you call it Duquesne? How do you say it? Am I saying it wrong? You talking about Duke?

Speaker 2:

No, what is Duquesne? You said Duquesne.

Speaker 3:

It's the school that his friend coaches, for man it's. I think his high school coaches was the head coach. I think his high school coach listen, I think his high school coach was the head coach and I think his best friend is now the head coach, one of his best friends from the documentary. Oh, wow, yeah, wow, yeah, I think that. And they just went on a run in the NCAA tournament is what I'm telling you. Wow, duquesne. So Brownie's going to Duquesne? I don't know that, don't?

Speaker 2:

do that to me.

Speaker 1:

I thought that you were calling Duke by some North Carolina nickname that you got for Duke. I was like Duquesne. Why are you calling it Duquesne?

Speaker 3:

No Duquesne.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy.

Speaker 1:

So to give the audience some context, I have been totally off the map for like the last month and I gotta be transparent I didn't watch not a lick of March Madness until the final four. Bronny James to Duquesne, that's got a little ring to it. We'll keep our eyes on that. What we also have to keep our eyes on is these rule changes in the NFL. We saw a few different rule changes over the last season or so, particularly with defensive players, the increase in targeting calls and you know we had the cream Jackson that we had covered and nauseam with the suspensions. And you know these, the right plays, or these wrong plays are the right calls, the wrong calls. And it just got more complicated with the NFL banning the hip drop tackle. Deej, I mean, what is a hip drop tackle?

Speaker 3:

Bro, it's a desperation tackle.

Speaker 3:

It's basically saying like you grab somebody around their waist and you drop your weight for them to go to the ground. Honestly, if you've ever seen steel wrestling, if you've ever watched a cowboy steel wrestle, it's the exact same tackle, but the tackle only happens when you're behind. When you're behind, at the last desperation, you're trying to make a play. It's the only time that your head gets behind somebody. Therefore, you grab them around the waist and you just try to drop. It's the only time it happens. It's not like you hit, drop, tackle people. When you got your head in front of them, There'd be no reason to. For me, it's like you're late. You're late and you're trying to get the person to stop fighting for extra yards.

Speaker 3:

What do you want me to do as a player? Do you want me to just let him drag me into the end zone? What do you want me to do? Do you want me to risk whipping around and look like a fucking idiot on the field by whipping around his damn waist? Because I'm scared to whip the hip? Drop. I'm making this tackle. The only reason I'm making this tackle this way is because I'm late. It's not because, like, oh, I'm on time, I'm about to get like. You know what I'm saying, Like usually, because if that was the case, I'd get in front of him and truly tackle him. I'm coming from an angle and I'm late, I'm trying to get to him and then he's about trying to run through my shit and get extra yards. So I drop. I don't understand what's like. They're like oh, the ankle injuries, this, that and the third. So what about the defensive player? What about?

Speaker 1:

us.

Speaker 3:

What rule have you made to make it safer for us in any type of way? That's what I don't understand. There's no rules that make it any safer for us as a defender.

Speaker 2:

Right, and then it seems like these rules are like they're.

Speaker 1:

they're just they're making it tricky for defensive players just to play the game. Because when I think of a hip drop tackle, that could and I'm glad that you framed it in a way that okay that you're behind, but even if the ball carrier is trying to run through you and maybe you don't have leverage, maybe you're a little bit high right, and then you have to regain leverage so you get low, you have no momentum. No momentum, so you have to drop your hip and you have to get them around. You know, one of the tackle points which, like the waist, is one of those places where you can get momentum and then you can drop your hip. So it's like it's a, it's a game of leverage in order to get somebody down to the ground, much less to get somebody who's 225 pounds and built to run plus to be built to run through you with the type of balance that these running backs or receivers or offensive players have right.

Speaker 1:

So in order to get leverage, you got to drop hips, you got to drop shoulders, etc. And with the nfl it's like so you've already limited the leverage that we can get from being up high. Right, because you can have leverage from hitting somebody at the, in the shoulders or the head or the neck area, basically, or you can go low. And when you go low it's either you like take out the, the knees, or you go around the waist and drop your leverage. So, like you know, leverage it's just constraining the box of the ways that defensive players can actually play the game.

Speaker 3:

It's crazy. There's really no. You're basing it off a couple injuries. People get hurt all the time. You're not just changing rules of the game for it. You know what I'm saying. Defensive linemen get hurt all the time. You're not just changing rules of the game for it. You know what I'm saying. You know how many defensive linemen get hurt on running backs, cutting when you're getting through the lane. It's just random stuff. You know what I'm saying. It's just like it's not making it safer for a defender in any way. It's not. It's crazy. You put defensive players in so much harm.

Speaker 3:

What are you supposed to do now? I'm out there thinking, okay, I can't hip drop them. Think about, like Derek Henry's going to Baltimore. Think about those small DB's that's just going to be up there like stuck on them, like trying to figure out alright, what do I do? I can't hip drop them, or they're going to throw a flag. But this dude is 240 pounds and I'm 175. He's just running away with me. What am I supposed to do to get him on the ground right now? What can I do? What is there to do?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. What rules have been made to make the game safer for these players? It's got more dangers. Think about it.

Speaker 3:

They cut out the cut room for a corner Corners can't cut the offensive lineman coming out there pulling now. All they can do is like try to collision them. It's more dangerous. You want this 300-pound joker running around here and you want me to either. My only two options is to foot freeze him or collision him, but I can't stop him. I can't cut him when it stops his momentum, which is what he would do to any defensive lineman in front of him if he really wanted to stop his momentum.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 3:

I watch DBs get smashed week to week to week now because of that exact rule Smash, smash, smash standing up high just like, oh, what do I do?

Speaker 1:

hey, they're trying to figure out what do I do.

Speaker 3:

How do I leverage the defense? What do you want me to do, coach? I can't do it.

Speaker 1:

He's coming around the corner yeah, yeah, I mean when I think about like it's also, the game is is changing too right. So you, you know you have bigger players out in space, you know there's more space, but then the offenses are so timed up that blocks are happening so fast, uh, you know. And that offensive lineman is up on that corner so fast by the time he realizes how the play is developing. He's being blocked, you know. And then for even, like uh, for outside backers or edge defenders, you have the wide the y offs flashing.

Speaker 2:

They're flashing about that by the time you realize it that he's either smacking you in the, you know, on the side of the ear hole or he's, or he's cutting you, or even in some of these offenses, they're bringing that that.

Speaker 1:

That play that y off in motion or it's a smaller dude, or a full back. It's coming in motion and and now we're coming full speed and cutting you. So you're telling me that you're going to ban the hip drop tackle before you ban the full speed at the last second cut edge guy.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy.

Speaker 3:

That's what they care about, bro. It's their priorities.

Speaker 2:

You got to play by the rules that they set, and it's like the running back expects to get tackled, the outside linebacker, you don't expect to get cut. You know that's like that's not a natural part of the game, At least not that quickly.

Speaker 3:

Not by a guy running freaking Canadian style across the formation just to run straight at your leg and dive into it. It's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, we might have to table this one for a lengthier discussion just about rules and really the evolution of the game, because I feel like there's some good subjects here around what offenses are doing and how it's forcing defenses to adjust, and then maybe how these rules are limiting how defensive players are able to adjust or scheme more schematically what defenses are being forced to do. Now that the rules are changing, correct, I think we can get in the nitty gritty man.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, we can get into that. That's something really to unpack. We definitely need to get into that.

Speaker 1:

We're going to unpack that shit, damn it, we will unpack that. But first we got to unpack the culture, the cultural developments over the past few weeks. We got a few and, like I said, I've been, I've been, I've been off the grid For the last three and a half weeks. So I'm going to lean on you for some of these show notes and what we got, what we got cooking here this J Cole and Kendrick Lamar beef I had no idea that they was beef. I hope that's okay for me as a host, to say that I have no idea what is going on on these topics that we're discussing, but I feel like this is okay because there's listeners maybe who don't know what's going on with K-Dot and Cole. So, dj, the floor is yours.

Speaker 3:

So, dj, the floor is yours. So Future and my dog, metro Boomin, released an album. You know shout-outs to them. It was fire Quago all over the album. I mean Metro's doing his thing. I did listen to that. You know I'm a big production guy, me, and you always talk about the sounds, the beats and he is going berserk, berserk in the production. He's going crazy. There's a song specifically like that, where Kendrick is on in the end verse. He takes some shots, takes a little jab at Cole, but really some shots at your boy, da Boy. He's taking a whole lot of shots at your boy, j Cole. Um, j Cole, at who the boy, your boy Drake, went. 90% of the verse is at Drake.

Speaker 2:

Oh, really yeah.

Speaker 3:

So it's really a Kendrick and Drake beef. J Cole, he took a jab at Cole cause Cole, you know, did the first person shooter with Drake, um at Cole, because Cole, you know, did the first-person shooter with Drake. So Cole felt the need to respond on his album that he just released might delete later there's a song at the end of the album called Seven Minute Drill, where you know, cole goes in a little bit, says some things, but it still jabs. He didn't. You know it was more of a hey bro, chill, don't mention me. You know what I can do and I'll do that.

Speaker 3:

For some people, you know they're not a fan of that. They want, like old school beef, like I see you niggas on site type beef. You know what I'm saying. That's the type of beef they want. But it's hard for me to Nicole and Kendrick specifically would do that because I feel like those two are genuinely like homies you know what I'm saying. Like I don't think that they aren't friends. So I think that like that would be tough for those two specifically to do. But like he's like tough for those two specifically to do. But, like I said, j Cole's on that, like don't do that. Like you know what I'm saying. You know what I'll do type shit. And Kendrick, you know he came out with that energy, especially towards Drake, like nigga F, you Like. You know what I'm saying. I am who I am. You know who I am. This and the third Like that's what he was on, that's what it seemed like he was on.

Speaker 1:

That's the gist of it, man. I wonder why K-Dot felt the need to do that with Drake. What was the impetus of that? I?

Speaker 3:

think those two have been taking shots back and forth for a minute now. I don't think this is nothing new. I don't think this is new beef. I think this has been subliminal beef for a minute. And K-Dot, you know, came out of his wherever he be in Compton doing dips at the park. He was probably doing some dips at the park. Future Metro called up. He was like you know what I got you, don't worry about it, I got y'all. I'm getting this booth right real quick. You know what I'm saying. Get it right.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, that's the gist of that.

Speaker 3:

That's where we at right now but Cole did just respond to the Dreamville Festival and said that you know, basically like K-Dot's brother, that was out of character and you could tell the response. If he came up with that in truly seven minutes. It was a masterpiece of a response in seven minutes, just off the top of your head you would. You would wonder and be delightful to know what else he has in store if he actually had time to write, because cole does this thing with the seven minute drill where he just sits down to get himself started, where he sits down for seven minutes right at the top and goes, lays that track, no matter what it is. So if you came up with all that in seven minutes, writes a topic and goes and lays that track, no matter what it is, if you came up with all that in seven minutes, I can only imagine if you was really digging to find some stuff and really go through what you would come up with and what you would say.

Speaker 1:

That's his technique. He gets it right in seven minutes. Yeah, it's one of those techniques called the seven-minute drill.

Speaker 3:

He just gets it, gives it, gives his guys a topic they all write whatever the topic is and just goes and lays down a track for seven minutes. Like seven minutes, you got it to write down, that's fine. Lay down whatever you got, just to get the creative juices flowing.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying yeah, yeah, I like that, I like that, I, I so yeah, k-dot and Drake. That doesn't surprise me because it feels like they're they come from, two like not polar ends of the extremes, but, just like you know, drake is more mainstream. The jingle makes sure he has the radio hits. K-dot is the total opposite. It's like I'm lyrical, I got a message here I really don't care about the radio. Maybe you'll catch one or two songs per project. That's for that. But the rest, I want you to just hear me so I could see there being a little bit of tension there. But K-Dot and J Cole, I feel like they both are on the same wavelength a little bit. And man, I'm trying to think now that, like I grew up on j cole, all through high school, really friday night lights, I was a big cole fan. But then when I got to college I was a K-Dot fan, section 80. That was really, I think, butterfly. I don't know who wins that battle, man.

Speaker 3:

I think that. You know I'm biased, I'm from Carolina. I think J Cole's a better rapper. I think Kendrick has made some better albums, but I also think everybody I think Kendrickson has made some better albums. But I also think everybody's beef with Kendrick is he don't drop enough. You know what I'm saying. I think that's the beef with Kendrick is he's regarded as this top rapper which he is. You know what I'm saying. He's the man. He just don't drop ever. And so everybody's like damn, I'm out here rapping my ass off, really proving I'm at the top, and y'all just still putting him in the category with me and he don't drop. So what do I got to do to separate myself? You know what I'm saying as the rapper he not dropping. I'm steady, dropping heat and y'all still putting us in the same category. It's just us three.

Speaker 3:

It's like damn what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 1:

I'd love to have that conversation with K-Dot. It's like why, why not? Why don't you drop your music? I know that you're recording.

Speaker 3:

I know you're doing something.

Speaker 1:

He's a musical genius. You're in the studio. You're doing something I know you are.

Speaker 2:

For sure.

Speaker 3:

What's the reason why, when you're doing something, you got other parts of your life you're doing. That's cool. Just answer the question.

Speaker 1:

Man to be as good as he is. He's in that studio To be as good as he is. He's passionate about his music.

Speaker 3:

He's making music.

Speaker 1:

So the question is are you not dropping music because you're maybe self-conscious around it being a type of quality that you're willing to drop with, or is it like a timing thing, Like you need to feel like it's that time, or is it like intentional? I'm going to, you know, I'm going to string the people out and just give them one project every four years, five years. You know. Is it strategic or is it actually like internal conflict?

Speaker 3:

Maybe he'll go on that run that J Cole went on when he was just featuring to get his skills back right. You know what I'm saying? Like to get sharp again because this feature was amazing. The last album I don't think was that fire by Kendrick. I don't think it was. Like you know, he put out some heat. So I mean, maybe sometimes it do take time for you to just rap on some stuff, just keep rapping, rapping, rapping to sharpen that pen and then really drop something that you really need to do. You know I'm saying drop one of those albums that we bring back like this, a classic right now yeah, yeah, well, I would appreciate it cold doing that here and there.

Speaker 1:

Um, you know, this last album this might delete later seems like it was something that you know wasn't super planned out. It was, you know, just some tracks that maybe he's you know the seven minute drill and maybe some other tracks that no, they didn't really. They don't really fit on like a full on a full project. But let me give the music, put the music out for the people. And then there was the one time that recently he found the J Cole type beat on YouTube. That's what he put in. He said J Cole type beat on YouTube and the first one that popped up. He chose the beat and then he rapped over it and then he put it out on YouTube and he was showing love to the producers. He was like yo, I want to do this more, give the people more music, which I appreciate.

Speaker 1:

That man, and that's why I miss that a little bit of. You know, back in the early 2000s when folks were dropping mixtapes Like it was your album. You know the album timing was the same. It was maybe like we're still waiting for four years, three, four years. So you get a like a really solid project, but up until then you're gonna get three or four mixtapes of all the stuff that I'm doing, all the music that didn't make it on that project. I'm gonna put it out for sure that.

Speaker 3:

But I think he always dropped something right before dream. I think people just don't do mixtapes no more. So that's like he just dropped it and was like you know what, just put this up. Because he put it up kind of late, it wasn't like up Like right at 12, when music usually drops. It dropped like 12.40, something crazy like that randomly in the middle of the night. Or I was out having a couple drinks when I seen it drop, immediately went to the car, just put it on. So I'm going to buy it back. Oh, that's fire. You love that, we just love that.

Speaker 3:

Let me see how this sound in the car. Man, Let me vibe out in the whip. It was good. But yeah, I think he just released it and we all miss those days, man, when people just release the music and just putting it up for us. Maybe we'll get back to that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. Well, I got to go back through and listen to the Mike DeLee later before he deletes it.

Speaker 3:

Before he deletes it. It's on my phone right now. I hope it don't get deleted Before he deletes it.

Speaker 1:

Shoot man. Well, we were going to maybe dive into some Diddy topics and all the drama around Diddy, but we ain't going to do that today. We're going to let that all unfold.

Speaker 3:

We're going to let that unfold before we start commenting on that, because right now the information that we got, the comments are man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't want to touch that with a 10 foot pole. No ditty, yeah, no, no ditty. No ditty today.

Speaker 2:

Well, shit man it's great talking to you it's great talking to you too, and this was the first of the group chat.

Speaker 1:

I'm feeling good about our rebrand, about our pivot here to the group chat, because we do have some good group chats going on and they're exciting. Why not take our group chats and put them into the show and put the show into our group chats and make it all just one, and then we can invite the audience to come into the group chat by listening in here and listening to what we got to say. But then, on top of that, we want to hear from the audience For sure. We want to know what they want to hear. What do they want to talk about? How you know they're involved in the group chat just like like we are. So you know any Lions fans that might be out there and they want to know about DJ Reader. Shoot us some questions in the comments, deej. What do you want to know about Detroit? Please let me know.

Speaker 3:

You got some questions too Good food spots. Drop them all in the comments. Please Let your boy know I like to eat. I'm going to be checking them out. I'm pulling up anywhere, anywhere, I promise.

Speaker 1:

So, deej, you're asking the Detroit Lions fans what are the best restaurants in Detroit. Is that right?

Speaker 3:

That is correct. I need to know the best ones. What's good, what you think is good, I don't care If your opinion and you just think that, hey, this place is fire and I need to check it out. We're talking from five-star restaurants to food trucks. We're taking everywhere. Baby, just let me know.

Speaker 1:

Did you strike me as a steakhouse man? Is that right? I like it all bro.

Speaker 3:

I like all food. If it's good, I'm eating it.

Speaker 1:

I feel that you got to go to India, bro, you'll like the food in India. Okay, I'd like me some curry, bro, you'll like the food in India?

Speaker 3:

Okay, you know, I'd like me some curry, bro, I'd love me some curry. Some chicken swarmer and stuff and all that stuff. You know what I'm saying? Some falafel. They eat falafel in India.

Speaker 1:

I didn't have no falafel. That's more of a Mediterranean thing. I know they food with the curry.

Speaker 3:

I know they food with the curry. I know they fool with the curry. They had the curry. They had the curry, the curry, the chunks of chicken, the. What Did you say, dog?

Speaker 1:

Doll Doll. No, no, no Doll Doll. I don't know nothing about that. D-a-h-l.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you have to let me know about that one.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think it may be D-A-L. Oh it's fire. It's kind of like curry with the naan. Yeah, it's naan Chapati. They got the chapati. They got the roti. They got the paratha. The paratha is like fried roti. They got the paratha. The paratha is like fried roti Fire.

Speaker 3:

I don't know, paratha, I don't see you got the names down.

Speaker 1:

You was there, you know how to pronounce this stuff I'm going to. I was in there. I got a fresh number on my ID. I'll send you some stuff, man. I'll send you some stuff, man. I'll send you some stuff. Well, shit, man. Anything else for the group chat before we hop off here.

Speaker 3:

That's it for me, man. You know I'm excited that we just about to lock in again New times, bro. Baseball season's coming up, so I'm super excited to bring some stuff to the group. Chat about another sport that I love. I can't wait to talk about it in the upcoming weeks. Other than that, I'm about to grab some food, clock it in for dinner, put this boy back there to sleep. That's it, man.

Speaker 1:

Alright, brother, until next time, until next week. Appreciate you all tuning in. This is.

Speaker 2:

Deej and Beej in the group chat logging off peace.